Rewards Structures in after school programs: An interview with Juan Rubio

Juan Rubio, the Digital Media and Learning Program Manager at the Seattle Public Library (SPL), designs, develops, and manages educational technology programs with digital media, such as games, interactive storytelling, virtual reality experiences, and augmented reality narratives. He is the author of the chapter, Working Together: Youth-Adult Partnerships to Enhance Youth Voice, in YALSA’s new book, Putting Teens First in Library Services: A Roadmap. He is on the board of directors of Filmmakers without Borders. Mr. Rubio is also a short story writer.


KM: Ok, so I really want to talk to you about some of the summer programming you ran at Globalkids that used digital badges. Can you start by describing your previous role at Globalkids?

JR: I was a Director for the Digital Leadership Learning (former OLP). I was responsible for managing programs around the city teaching digital skills such as game design, programming, and interactive storytelling. The programs took place at a different locations and types of institutions such as New York Public Schools in the Bronx, Queens, and Brooklyn. Some of them also took place at other informal spaces such as NYSCI, AMNH, Brooklyn Museum, etc. Part of the responsibilities also included securing funds and collaborations with partners. For example, the iDesign program was a NSF funded project in collaboration with Hofstra University and Public Schools in Long Island, NY. http://dllglobalkids.weebly.com/blog/archives/07-2014

KM: Let’s talk about the summer programs run in 2012. Can you describe the system of badges you used in Virtual Video Project and Race to the White House?

Failing at immersion: fancy play buttons

Have you ever experienced a fancy play button? You know what I mean. Its that experience where you are wrapped up in an interesting tale, and the natural ebb and flow of the story is stopped because.. you have to click play again. This annoyance usually runs by the name of "engagement," as if giving a viewer something, anything, to do will make a passive experience transform into something that has engagement. It's especially concerning when it comes to "VR," and we see things fly under the flag of immersion which are really just even fancier play buttons.

Rewards Structures in The Ward Game: An interview with Paul Darvasi

As the second interview in this series, I am excited to interview Paul Darvasi, who is a high school English and Media Studies teacher who teaches at Royal St. George’s College, in Toronto, Canada. Paul is also a doctoral candidate at York University, and a founding member of the Play Lab at the University of Toronto. He researches, writes, and speaks at the intersections of games, culture, society, education, and learning. He also designs pervasive or alternate reality games which he has implemented in instructional settings, and one of those games will be the focus of today's interview.


KM: So I’m excited to talk about the very first time I heard you talk about your classroom. It was at the Games for Education conference in Troy, and you talked about what you did with One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest. Could you provide a brief description of that game here?

PD: Essentially, I used the narrative, setting, theme, and characters from Ken Kesey’s novel to create a 30-day game where my students are immersed in the world of the asylum. I was struck that so many of Kesey’s critiques about Nurse Ratched’s ward, such as the use of authority, coercion, and clockwork organization coincided with some of the worst aspects of schooling.

Reward structures in Gamestar Mechanic: An interview with Scott Price

Today, I’m excited to interview a close colleague and friend, Scott Price. Scott has been helping people play and learn online and offline for over 15 years. After teaching for several years, he entered the game industry with Scholastic and then joined the pioneering studio Gamelab. He moved back into "educational" games with Gamestar Mechanic, the groundbreaking game about game design, which will be the focus of today’s interview. Scott has had QA, IT, Creative, Project and Product Management roles, and has spoken on production, game design, and education at several dozen conferences and events. Scott is now Director of Product with BrainPOP. 

I have previously talked about the idea of rewards in games on this blog, as well as intrinsic rewards in specific. This interview is one of several I hope to have over the next year, as I attempt to connect ideas written on this blog to real world work that others have done.

KM: Ok, so I really want to talk to you about Gamestar Mechanic, a project I know you worked on several years ago. Maybe to start, you can describe briefly what Gamestar Mechanic is for those that aren’t familiar?

SP: Sure! Gamestar Mechanic is an online game and community that teaches game design and systems thinking through gameplay and design. Players follow a steampunk Quest and play 2D platforming and top-down games, eventually hitting levels that they can’t beat.